I encourage sharing

virusman · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Russia

A lot of PW developers tend to keep their scripted systems and not to release anything to the public.
I'd like to encourage sharing of the scripts based on NWNX, so here is the deal:

I'll give a first priority to the requests made by people who release their work based on NWNX functionality.

No guarantees, but I will be adding them to the top of my todo list.
If you have a really cool system and want to release it, but it's not completed/documented/tested - feel free to post here: it's very likely that other people will help you with it.

Also, I'm going to add a special section on NWNX site with links to such systems. So if you'd like to suggest a system, post a link here.
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Gryphyn · Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 431

The code is already published, but I'll offer up my SQLServer code.
It can be used to replace the current ODBC plugin (with a little work), the catch is I had to rework the core interface (internals only) to give.
1. Improved DB error logging,
2. Simplified NWScript command set
3. Parametrized SQL (no messy string concatenation)
4. Objects are now just a data-type, not a special case (retrieve both string and object columns in the same query)

I've also included an ASP mode, so any existing code will work as-is.

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You'll need this for my Vendor system (lag-free). some of the features;
1. Stores can be selective - page, type or item filtering
2. Vendors are mobile (they can wander between areas - walk waypoints)
3. Player 'profits' are recorded, and can be 'bulk' collected from a 'Burgher' (collects all the profits from every vendor)
4. Buyback - items in a store for a specified time are 'considered' sold - at a discount (crafters dumping items get some cash back, but the store isn't flooded with 100's of the same item)
5. DM trasher - a DM can 'buy-out' the store, crafters get their 'profits' - one of each item is kept.

Cheers
Gryphyn

Disco · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 152

I am one of those people that do not share a lot. The reason is not secrecy but perfectionism and lack of time. Stuff just isn't finished, polished, commented to standards that would make me publish things. It's also a matter of things being intertwined (not just between nwn and nwnx but also php and mysql) and making separate packages of them would be a challenge.

To be fair: the NWNX base script is about the only thing I am using that hasn't been specifically made for our server, so in the end my parasite ratio is pretty neutral.

Ne0nx3r0 · Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 36

I don't know how many others like this there are, but I'm kind of in the same boat (though my scripting is nothing to be envious of); I have a lot of nifty widgets of code, but they are fairly dependent on other scripts, and almost all of them use the zzdlg dynamic conversation system or some other module-wide install, so while they might just be one extra script to me, exported they might turn into a few dozen.

Rest assured, if I ever come up with anything of value I'll hand it out for the masses Smile

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Lokey · Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 158

FunkySwerve · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 377

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the.gray.fox · Joined: 11 Dec 2009 Posts: 21

The systems I written have to do with spells -- one way or the other.
- Polymorph
- Spell Resistance
- Dispel magic
- Metamagic
and other things.

The problem of exporting something like this is all the static linking.
To change existing scripts to use alternate systems one is forced to recompile _everything_. Coupled with 2da edits too.
That is mammoth work -- kind of defeats the purpose of engineering a slick interface.

But maybe it is for the best?
I imagine if NWN used dynamic linking we would be flooded with standalone scripts and systems. All resulting in a Babel, and so much difficult to find your way in it.

-fox

Lokey · Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 158

I forgot, there is a how can I help issue: demo mods and documentation. Perhaps that's a better general sound-off issue? Then again, just because I'm not aware of anything utterly astounding that's not freely available doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

FunkySwerve · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 377

It's not bloated at all - we didn't bother to convert half of the stuff we did this way. More a matter of ease of use - not having to do anything outside of script to accomplish it.

Funky

ShaDoOoW · Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 584

Sethan · Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 47

Excellent idea. I'll see what we've got that we can share.

Mithreas · Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 24

On Arelith we intend to open source our engine sooner or later. We don't use haks, so we have a very heavy reliance on nwnx to go beyond what the base engine permits.

Currently it's all in a SVN repository but we haven't got around to publishing it properly yet.
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Hexgenesis · Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 10

^ That's a pretty exciting thought.

I just started playing on Arelith and I'm amazed at the complexity of the scripting and the amount of players it handles with little problem.

Mithreas · Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 24

Glad to have you with us. Since the server split we did at the weekend to go from 2 servers to 3, we can now handle our usual peak of 110-120 players without noticeable lag, which is great.

There's over a hundred thousand lines of custom scripts in the Arelith engine, and we use most of the NWNX plugins on top of that. And there's still so much more I want to do with it, but with a full time job I have to limit my Arelith time Wink

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