Thoughts on 64-bit

[addicted2rpg]

I've been "out of the loop" due to having upgraded computer to XP64 which has basically ended my NWNX projects career =-)

However, I discovered this little gem on madshi.net

[Zebranky]

Personally, I just keep a 32-bit VM around (two, actually -- one WinXP, one Linux) and use that for my NWNX stuff. It has the added benefit of being able to use Wireshark and other such tools with far less background noise.
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Win32 SVN builds: http://www.mercuric.net/nwn/nwnx/

<Fluffy-Kooshy> NWNx plugin is to this as nuclear warheads are to getting rid of fire ants.

<ThriWork> whenever I hear nwn extender, I think what does NWN need a penis extender for?

[addicted2rpg]

Great idea. I still have the original media from my XP32. I'll have to give it a try.

You using "VMWare" or some other emulation solution tool?

[virusman]

VMWare (Server and Player are free) or VirtualBox (free, open-source).

[Zebranky]

VMWare, aye, though I've been considering switching to VirtualBox for the whole free software thing.
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Win32 SVN builds: http://www.mercuric.net/nwn/nwnx/

<Fluffy-Kooshy> NWNx plugin is to this as nuclear warheads are to getting rid of fire ants.

<ThriWork> whenever I hear nwn extender, I think what does NWN need a penis extender for?

[addicted2rpg]

SUCCESS!!!!!!!!

I think the emulator ideas are awesome and probably a lot more profound than my long-way approach.

But... I read your responses a little too late and had set work on the problem. Fortunately, my labors have prevailed.

It turns out, even with the MySQL 64-bit ODBC/Connector, the 32-bit version of NWNX2 and nwserver work just fine.


In nwserver.cpp in the NWNX2 folder,
Change:

[addicted2rpg]

Fyi, it does seem a little racey. Sometimes it doesn't inject, but I just check if the return val on InjectLibrary is FALSE and try again.. seems to work that way. Of course, since I don't run a large PW, can't make any claims to how stable it is over time, but once the dll injection takes I think (knock on wood) it should be alright.

[Zebranky]

Awesome! Haven't tested it myself, but I can see that working. Good to know!
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Win32 SVN builds: http://www.mercuric.net/nwn/nwnx/

<Fluffy-Kooshy> NWNx plugin is to this as nuclear warheads are to getting rid of fire ants.

<ThriWork> whenever I hear nwn extender, I think what does NWN need a penis extender for?

[Baaleos]

Hey does this actually work?

If so, can someone provide a binary/executable download?

My situation is that I have a Winxp64 bit desktop, and a x86 Dedicated Server situated across the Irish Sea. Lol

So, any time I want to test a new NWNx functionality/script, I've always had to upload to my dedicated server, and then connect.


But if this can indeed get nwnx working on xp64 bit, it would solve alot of my headaches.

[addicted2rpg]

Yes and no. Its pretty squirrely. What I mean by squirelly is sometimes the Inject will fail. When it succeeds, I haven't noticed any instability. Even more confusing, is if you shutdown the server and let the process-watchdog restart it, subsequent restarts (originating from the process-watch dog) won't inject.

You got to exit both the watchdog and the server and start the NWNX2.exe all over again to get a proper "try" at injecting with the code as I have it above. I'd say it almost alternates, like "every other time" it injects successfully, or around 50%.

I have mediated on the idea of calling a deliberately failing UnInjectLibrary call first just to see if there is any residue I don't know about that needs cleaning up from the last one. It might help, even if there is no library to UnInject.

I have developed code to determine if an inject worked (mainly by checking for the presence of nwnx.log after the log rotate).

I have a 32-bit box next to me so I've sort of moved over to that now, but it seems I'm not the only one interested; perhaps I should pursue this development more.

I could send you a binary, but like I said, it wouldn't be worth a damn. Although as a developer it wouldn't be bad since you could just restart it. The catch-22 is if you want to run a "real" NWN server.

I'll play around with it a little more, see if I can come up with a way to get it to inject 100% of the time. I'll also ask around on madshi.net to see if those guys can reveal anything helpful.

[addicted2rpg]

This one is for you Baaleos -
http://metafocus.net/~cs60/NWNX2.rar

source included per gnu public license.

This is in no way a "release" - its more like something I scrapped together between compiles. It has the Uninject idea being applied at the moment, and god only knows how useful/useless that is So far, I've got a few runs successful in a "row" so I'm optimistic, but, yeah, we'll see. Anyway, as far as I am aware, that is closest as your gonna get running NWNX natively (that is, without emulation) on XP64 until further discovery.


"Key Code"-

[Disco]

We run NWNX2 on a 64-bit XP server. Magnumman posted about this before.

[addicted2rpg]

I remember reading about madshi's prelease but I hadn't worked up the gall to ask him for it since he mentions its for "special customers" and I am by no means a customer. I have a feeling that donating probably helps qualify you as a "special customer."

It would be neat to get this madCHook into the NWNX distro, but that would be somewhat contingent on him giving it to us....... and I really don't want to provoke him smuggling it / discovering what extent we are actually protected by the GPL It'd be poor ettiquette and distasteful anyway.

Well, for everyone else, it seems my workaround above works fine as far as I can tell (and there is still the emulator workaround). Still, its good to know the pre-release is stable and well-tested by Amia.

[Gryphyn]

[maddogfargo]